Don't believe the hype(odermic).

This is the very reason why I don't get flu shots any more. I get the flu everytime. I'd rather take my chances and wash my hands.

I've been debating a flu shot for the past couple of weeks. You've inspired me to not do it :)

Flu shot ingredients:
Thimerson (Mercury disinfectant/preservative)
Aluminum (additive to promote antibody response) (implicated as a contributor to Alzheimer's, seizures, fatigue, mental problems)
Formaldehyde (disinfectant) (let's embalm ourselves alive!) (incidentally, it's what aspartame aka NutraSweet converts to at a mere 86 degrees F)
Ethylene Glycol (anti-freeze-deadly-poison) (seems to do nothing constructive at all)
Phenol (disinfectant)
Benzethonium Chloride (antiseptic)
Methylparaben (anti fungal, preservative)

I AM CURRENTLY TAKING A PHYSIOLOGY CLASS AND IT IS VERY INTERESTING HOW OUR BODIES REALLY WORK. THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL I WOULD EVER GET ANOTHER FLU SHOT. I WORK IN A NURSERY AND SOME OF MY CO-WORKERS WENT AND GOT A FLU SHOT. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE WORKED THERE AROUND CHILDREN FOR MANY YEARS. I ASKED THEM "WHY DID YOU GET A FLU SHOT?" AND THEY SAID, "SO WE DONT GET THE FLU" AND I ASKED THEM, "DID YOU GET SICK WORKING HERE LAST YEAR?" AND THEY SAID "NO". AND I SAID "DID YOU GET THE FLU SHOT LAST YEAR" AND THEY SAID, "NO". IT IS QUITE SIMPLY AMAZING HOW NIEVE WE ARE!!!! NOW, DONT GET ME WRONG. I THINK THAT THE FLU SHOT HAS DONE AMAZING THINGS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SUSEPTABLE TO GETTING SICK, BUT NOT FOR THE AVERAGE EVERYDAY PERSON.

You guys obviously haven't had the flu for some time or ever. After getting the flu 3 years in a row, the flu shot is great! I haven't had the flu for 7 years now. Please remember the flu is not like a cold. The flu really floors you. It knocks you totally out of commission for weeks. I'm a very healthy 48 year old male who will get a flu shot every year.

The flu shot isn't the only harmful shot. Most vaccines are riddled with lots of harmful ingredients and are linked to diseases such as ADHA and down syndrome. Which is why neither of my children ever have taken or ever will get any vaccines. Most states have a way to get around it so your child can attend school and daycare without them. Check religous exemption!!!

I think the government uses mind control and fear tactics along with good ole advertising techniques to make people get the flu shot

There are thousands of strains of the flu and if anyone is brain dead enough to think that they magically put the exact strain in the flu shot that ends up going around does not need the flu shot, they need a therapist and a common sense class. Drugs should be used for two reasons and two reasons only - possible permanent damage or death or extreme pain. If you get the flu...grow up and deal with it. Don't inject yourself with mercury and aluminum. If you want to save money have your friend with the flu sneeze in your mouth and then break open a thermometer and chew on it, you will get similar results.

There are thousands of strains of the flu and if anyone is brain dead enough to think that they magically put the exact strain in the flu shot that ends up going around does not need the flu shot, they need a therapist and a common sense class. Drugs should be used for two reasons and two reasons only - possible permanent damage or death or extreme pain. If you get the flu...grow up and deal with it. Don't inject yourself with mercury and aluminum. If you want to save money have your friend with the flu sneeze in your mouth and then break open a thermometer and chew on it, you will get similar results.

There are thousands of strains of the flu and if anyone is brain dead enough to think that they magically put the exact strain in the flu shot that ends up going around does not need the flu shot, they need a therapist and a common sense class. Drugs should be used for two reasons and two reasons only - possible permanent damage or death or extreme pain. If you get the flu...grow up and deal with it. Don't inject yourself with mercury and aluminum. If you want to save money have your friend with the flu sneeze in your mouth and then break open a thermometer and chew on it, you will get similar results.

There are thousands of strains of the flu and if anyone is brain dead enough to think that they magically put the exact strain in the flu shot that ends up going around does not need the flu shot, they need a therapist and a common sense class. Drugs should be used for two reasons and two reasons only - possible permanent damage or death or extreme pain. If you get the flu...grow up and deal with it. Don't inject yourself with mercury and aluminum. If you want to save money have your friend with the flu sneeze in your mouth and then break open a thermometer and chew on it, you will get similar results.

Re: "There are thousands of strains..."

My mother has a PhD in Epidemiology (Infection Control) and my brother is an MD with a Masters in Epidemiology, so I am sure the information I have is reliable:

The flu shot is not intended for one "exact strain." It is a broad base flu innoculation that will ward off many of the more common strains. The shot is modified each year according to incidence of various strains, and the projected likelyhood of their mutations that naturally occur over time.

The levels of mercury and aluminum are extremely low and ensure the quality/stability of the innoculation. You are likely to get a much higher dose of mercury from many types of fish, and you get far more aluminum exposure from most deodorants than from the flu shot.

As for the shot making you sick: It rarely will cause some flu symptoms, but of far less severity than from exposure to the flu without the shot. The few people who get really sick after the shot likely were exposed the the infection within a couple weeks prior to receiving the shot, compromising the shot's effectiveness.

Go to Medline or WebMD for more information...Get solid information, not just anecdotal information, so you can make the appropriate decision regarding the shot.

People who are elderly, have immune system problems, or that have no spleen should almost always get the shot.

just to tell you, even though i'm a 13 yr old, i am looking for info on the flu shot, and for the past 2 yrs, i've been getting the flu shot and i keep telling my mom that i don't want to get it because every time i did, i would get sick after. well, that's what happens because as only a few of us may know, the flu shot actually HAS the flu in it so that somehow, that prevents us from getting the flu. I know it's wierd, but i'd rather get the flu shot than have a better risk of getting the flu and dying.

God designed the body to fight off the flu, if you are willing to eat right, rest, exercise and follow the laws of health, the flu should not be a big problem. If you violate the laws of health, eat poorly, drink alcohol, smoke or other health destroying behaviors, then no vaccine can help the eventually result-disease and premature death. There is no vaccine that can help those who don't help themselves.

The vaccine can not do what God designed the body to do.

You are right that some products have mercury and aluminum in them. But our bodies are made to fight off those things when exposed to them. We have built in defense system (a wall if you will). the problem is that we don't inject fish into our blood stream, we eat it. our defense system (the wall) takes care of the impurities for us. The flu shot is injected directly into our blood stream which basically is like "jumping over the wall" of our defense system...THAT is the difference. People with Phd's and such will be biased towards vaccinations because they were indoctrinated by those that came up with the thing to begin with...it is ALL a money thing!

First of all, god didn't design anything to fight the flu. Secondly, elderly people can NOT fight the flu and are therefore vaccinated because they have impaired immune/weakened systems.
Thirdly, the purpose is not to make money off the flu vaccination -- come on,now. step up. if everyone had immunity to virii, and no one got sick, the entire health care system would collapse.
Finally, the "wall" you talk about is in fact cells that circulate in your body via your lymphatic system and circulatory system -- so your macrophages are already in your blood. THere is no "jumping over walls." Did you even bother to research at all how people become infected? Or take a few minutes to read about how the body's immune system works? How antibodies are created?

Please.. don't post just drivel on this site.

I got the flu shot at an airforce base about 5 years ago, 14 hours later I was sicker than I'd ever been in my life.

LA, it looks like this blog entry is on Google's first page of results for "flu+shot+mind+control." Which explains all the "woowoo" comments. Me, I was looking for Mr. X. Heh heh!

If you do not feel right about so-called flu vaccinations then by no means get one. Of course the pharmaceutical companies are making a killing. Amplifying the fear on major media always works selling you drugs and war among other thing you don't necessarily want or need. Although myself, not a 'Mr. Know It All', just a believer in eminent logic. The only real 'woo-woo' comment I've seen on this page is some guy looking for a Mr.X. For those interested in pharmaceutical scams and more, please look up Dr. Len Horowitz @ www.prophecyandpreparedness.com

I am so tired of hearing people say "I got the flu shot and then got the flu after. Most of the time they are talking about the throwing up ect. stuff. That is not the flu! It is probably a case of food poisoning, as this happens to people quite often and they don't realize it. I get the flu shot every year and have never been ill from it and even seem to have fewer colds during the year. When I didn't get the flu shot I was ill often over the winter months. I will take my chances with the shot.

Donna -- do you have an MD?? I didn't think so. What stats are you referring to when you say 'most times they are throwing up'?

For the last time -- some people should NOT GET THE FLU SHOT BECAUSE THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEMS CAN NOT HANDLE IT. A LOT of people get sick after teh flu, and it's not just weak symptoms.

This is from the CDC: and I am now closing comments on this post.

Groups At Risk for Complications from Influenza
A yearly flu shot is recommended for the following groups of people who are at increased risk for serious complications from the flu:

persons aged >50 years;*
residents of nursing homes and other long-term care facilities that house persons of any age who have long-term illnesses;
adults and children > 6 months of age who have chronic heart or lung conditions, including asthma;
adults and children > 6 months of age who need regular medical care or had to be in a hospital because of metabolic diseases (like diabetes), chronic kidney disease, or weakened immune system (including immune system problems caused by medicine or by infection with human immunodeficiency virus [HIV/AIDS]);
children and teenagers (aged 6 months to 18 years) who are on long-term aspirin therapy and therefore could develop Reye Syndrome after the flu; and
women who will be more than 3 months pregnant during the flu season.
*People 50-64 years of age who do not have chronic (long-term) medical conditions might not be at high risk for serious complications from the flu. However, about 26% of people aged 50-64 years have high-risk conditions and are at increased risk for flu-related complications. Beginning in 2000, a flu shot was recommended for all people 50-64 years old each year to increase the number of high-risk 50-64 year olds who get a flu shot.

Because young, otherwise healthy children are at increased risk for influenza-related hospitalization, influenza vaccination of healthy children aged 6-23 months is encouraged when feasible.

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Persons Who Can Give the Flu to People Who Are At High Risk for Complications
Persons with the flu can give it to other people. To help prevent flu among people at high risk for complications, the following people should get a flu shot:

doctors, nurses, and other employees in hospitals and doctors’ offices, including emergency response workers;
employees of nursing homes and long-term care facilities who have contact with patients or residents;
employees of assisted living and other residences for people in high-risk groups;
people who provide home care to those in high-risk groups; and
household members (including children) of people in high-risk groups.

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Flu Prevention for the General Population
Anyone who wants to lower their chances of getting the flu (the shot can be administered to children as young as 6 months) can get a flu shot. Persons who provide essential community services (such as police, firemen, etc.) should consider getting a flu shot to minimize disruption of essential activities during flu outbreaks. Students or others in institutional settings (those who reside in dormitories) should be encouraged to get a flu shot.

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Who Should Not Get a Flu Shot
The following groups should not get a flu shot before talking with their doctor:

People who are have a severe allergy to hens’ eggs

People who have had a severe reaction to a flu shot in the past

People who previously developed Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) in the 6 weeks after getting a flu shot

It's amazing the amount of misinformation I'm reading in some of the posts. Especially those who tell us that we have the ability to ward off the flu and fight it ourselves have never lost a baby from the flu. Nine years ago, I couldn't get the shot because the doctor's didn't prioritize the shot according to the CDC's guidelines and I got so sick I lost the baby. I have otherwise always gotten the shot and never got the flu during those years. If you get sick after the shot it has nothing to do with the shot. The shot contains dead virus. You were already or subsequently exposed to something before or directly after. The flu shot takes about 2 weeks to help you develop immunities to the virus, and even if you get a form of the flu not contained in the shot, it can help lessen the symptoms. Thousands of people die every year from the flu, so how can some of you say that the flu shot doesn't help? We do not all have the ability to fight it off and that's why they have guidelines. Those who do not get the shot and get sick, go out into public and hack and sneeze on those without it and give it to others. Sick children are sent to school with it and they bring it home to spread it. What misinformation!

I think the relationship between the pharmaceutical industry and the governments that are pushing this shot so hard this year needs to be closely examined. I think there are plenty of facts out there in the history of governments policies to show something is up. The pharmaceutical companies donate plenty of cash to the political engines. They lobby and can afford lots of lawyers. Governments will stimulate industry for the better good of the economy.. right? I see this hype as a growing form of social programming by governments in support of the desires of the industries. All foreign aide is GM only. Everybody needs the flu shot. Had a bad day? You need Zoloft. Kids acting up. Ritalin. Scared of germs? Antibacterial this & that. Got a cold? pills. etc... etc..

What I fear is this unlikely scenario, call it a paranoid projection. Imagine the masses adopt yearly shots. One anti-terror shot, one anti flu one.. you get the idea. Now the flu travels around the world mutating it's happy way. Every time it passes through the vaccinated cultures and mutates with it. Sounds normal..
Allow this to repeat again and again. The population who is "against" shots stands a risk of getting killed off by the imbalance in adoption. The super flu's may be our fault? The immunized live, those that resist pharmaceuticals die off .. ahem "naturally".

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My friend edvised me to get the flu shot and did now I've already had the flu for 7 weeks!

In October I had the Dr. give my 9 month old the flu shot. Two days later he was hospitilized with a 105.8 temp. HE has been sick ever since he recieved it and hospitilized 3 times since. IT is now june almost a year later and he is still sick. We have ran all sorts of tests and have not came up with anything. I will never do it again.

In October I had the Dr. give my 9 month old the flu shot. Two days later he was hospitilized with a 105.8 temp. HE has been sick ever since he recieved it and hospitilized 3 times since. IT is now june almost a year later and he is still sick. We have ran all sorts of tests and have not came up with anything. I will never do it again.

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it is 100% impossible for you to get the flu from the shot. you may have a similar response from the shot as your body builds up antibodies, but it will not cause influenza because there is no live virus in the vaccine. a virus is made up of two components; the protein coat and the viral nucleic acid inside the coat. antibodies in your body respond to the shape of the coat, not the viral nucleic acid. the vaccine only contains the coat, with NONE of the nucleic acid inside. this allows your immune system to build up an antibody resistance to the influenza virus without getting the flu, because the virus can't and won't infect you if the nucleic acid is not there.

also, there is no aluminum in the shot- that is a common misconception, but ultimately, still a misconception. therefore, it can't cause alzheimer's or contribute to it- there are no exacerbating factors in the vaccine that contribute to alzheimer's.

way to perpetuate common misconceptions, everyone. let's hear it for urban legends. next thing we'll hear is that the polio vaccine actually caused little timmy in ohio to grow an extra head. check your facts, people.